Ryan Wilson: Marc-Andre Fleury and the Vegas Golden Knights Marc-Andre Fleury and the Vegas Golden Knights

She obviously has a gambling problem that is out in the open now.

MAF waiving his NMC and getting picked up by Vegas is certainly best case scenario. Sure Calgary may give a 2nd, or a prospect such as Oliver Kylington for Fleury, but then we lose one of Hornqvist, Rust, or Mattaa depending the route we go for Procter players. I'd rather lose Fleury for nothing, than lose Fleury AND Hornqvist but get a 2nd in return.

You lost me at "We have an extra day off in-between Games 2 and 3 of the Stanley Cup Final". WHY does the NHL insist on dragging out the playoffs. Way too many days off!

MAF waiving his NMC and getting picked up by Vegas is certainly best case scenario. Sure Calgary may give a 2nd, or a prospect such as Oliver Kylington for Fleury, but then we lose one of Hornqvist, Rust, or Mattaa depending the route we go for Procter players. I'd rather lose Fleury for nothing, than lose Fleury AND Hornqvist but get a 2nd in return.
- Willaged

You must've missed this part of the article:

Basically this is saying that the Penguins trading Fleury can count as their player selected for the expansion draft. This is a best case scenario for the Penguins and a realistic one believe it or not. All the drama surrounding what forward or defenseman the Penguins are going to lose might be washed away by the Capitals former general manager. George McPhee could be the gift that keeps giving to the Penguins

You must've missed this part of the article:

Basically this is saying that the Penguins trading Fleury can count as their player selected for the expansion draft. This is a best case scenario for the Penguins and a realistic one believe it or not. All the drama surrounding what forward or defenseman the Penguins are going to lose might be washed away by the Capitals former general manager. George McPhee could be the gift that keeps giving to the Penguins
- tpcg402

Assuming this is true. What do you think about the possibility of resigning Daley (They will need another d man) and trading Hagelin (they are loaded at forward but may need a center as Bones/ Cullen could be out) this summer?

Or Maybe she just wanted to go to Vegas. It's not a bad town.

since its such a boon for the pens I wouldn't trade for maf until after the expansion draft if I was Mcphee... I would get a deal done with pens agreeing not to take MUrray, pick another player off the pens in expansion, then trade for maf after the draft.

Assuming this is true. What do you think about the possibility of resigning Daley (They will need another d man) and trading Hagelin (they are loaded at forward but may need a center as Bones/ Cullen could be out) this summer?
- Brianandr1

I'd be all for trading Hagelin, but not sure what we would fetch in return. In a perfect world we clear his $4m and can use that for a top 4 D (I just don't see him bringing much of a return) . I'd re sign Sheary and Dumo for sure. Schultz too if it's reasonable(under $5m per which I believe is easily doable for club and player). Then see what Bonino wants. After that I'd circle back to Daley to see if he wants to do a team friendly deal. I'm not big on Daley and he is older so it would have to be a short term deal for me. I think one of Kunitz or Cullen may return on the cheap, more likely Kunitz since I think Cullen retires. But long story short is if Fleury is our only casualty to Vegas with nothing retained then I feel it gives the team a lot of options to fill out the roster with all that money available and shedding Hag's salary would be a cherry on top.

Assuming this is true. What do you think about the possibility of resigning Daley (They will need another d man) and trading Hagelin (they are loaded at forward but may need a center as Bones/ Cullen could be out) this summer?
- Brianandr1

Not a fan of resigning Daley. His season was pretty bleh. Playoffs he's been solid but I'd rather look elsewhere.

Not a fan of resigning Daley. His season was pretty bleh. Playoffs he's been solid but I'd rather look elsewhere.
- j.boyd919

Always thought Brendan Smith would be a good add to our blue-line. Shouldn't be to costly either.

No Bonino at practice. Hopefully it's maintenance.

Guentzel takes over center duties on second PP unit w/ Bonino absent.

— Bill West (@BWest_Trib) June 2, 2017

Always thought Brendan Smith would be a good add to our blue-line. Shouldn't be to costly either.
- cap1681

That is exactly who I would target if I was the Pens. I wanted him over Hainsey and Streit at the deadline.

Not a fan of resigning Daley. His season was pretty bleh. Playoffs he's been solid but I'd rather look elsewhere.
- j.boyd919

He did have to recover from a pretty bad injury for this season. I imagine something like that would take away from your game. Anything legs or feet are gonna hurt u all over...stamina speed strength etc. It is hard to start a season behind everyone when u cannot train like they can in the off-season. The season is a tough time to work into peak conditioning. He is rounding into what we should expect from him just now. I'd be ok with Daley for one more go and see what we get. We will need serious d help this off-season. We have a wealth up front...lets not forget sprong. I'm excited to see what he can do. Unless there is something wrong with sheary...im not hopeful regarding his future like many others are.

If I were a betting man I don’t believe Fleury will use this negatively against the Penguins. Because of this the debate between the 7F 3D vs 4F 4D approach might be moot.
- Ryan_Wilson

Maybe I'm just missing something, but what does Fleury's NMC have to do with the 7F/3D/1G vs. 8S/1G debate?

Of all goalies available, Fleury definitely represents the total package for an expansion team. Great player, great resume and a great person to use as one of the faces of your franchise.

The only question is will another team pay more to have them take their goalie.

Dallas is the wild card. They are going to trade down their 1st with either LV or Vancouver to take one of them off their hands. I am 99.9% sure of that.

Maybe I'm just missing something, but what does Fleury's NMC have to do with the 7F/3D/1G vs. 8S/1G debate?
- jmatchett383

The assumption is that if Fleury is exposed, he would be the player LV selects.

I'm with you on this one Ryan. I completely believe the Pens will get something done with Vegas that ensures just Fleury goes or possibly Fleury and a player to be worked out between JimR and George to help take some cap.....maybe Hags?

Daniel Sprong is basically a Hags that can score like Jake G. The pipeline is looking great right now and there is absolutely no worries about roster turnover with the Pens lately, they are just getting everything "right"

You must've missed this part of the article:

Basically this is saying that the Penguins trading Fleury can count as their player selected for the expansion draft. This is a best case scenario for the Penguins and a realistic one believe it or not. All the drama surrounding what forward or defenseman the Penguins are going to lose might be washed away by the Capitals former general manager. George McPhee could be the gift that keeps giving to the Penguins
- tpcg402

I saw it, just chose to ignore it. If MAF waived for Vegas, why on earth would McPhee give up assests to obtain him if he could have him for nothing? I guess he runs the risk of the Pens dealing Fleury before the draft but I'd think McPhee takes his chances rather then give up an assets for what would be free.

Well that's all excellent news and big if true.

Will be sad to see him go but this is a business and this would be the best business decision.

I saw it, just chose to ignore it. If MAF waived for Vegas, why on earth would McPhee give up assests to obtain him if he could have him for nothing? I guess he runs the risk of the Pens dealing Fleury before the draft but I'd think McPhee takes his chances rather then give up an assets for what would be free.
- Willaged

I hear ya. It sounds too good to be true. We will know here in a couple of weeks.

Was a nice decision in retrospect for Rutherford not shipping him off to CGY last season in anticipation of the following year's expansion draft. He carried the Pens this year in Murray's absence

Well that's all excellent news and big if true.

Will be sad to see him go but this is a business and this would be the best business decision.
- MattStrat

What are the odds that IF the Pens win the Cup that Crosby hands the Cup
A. to Fleury First!
B. Then Fleury hands it off to Murray

I think A is possible, but B is unlikely.

Maybe I'm just missing something, but what does Fleury's NMC have to do with the 7F/3D/1G vs. 8S/1G debate?
- jmatchett383

if there is a trade worked out, that can also count as the player taken in the expansion draft so the protection is unnecessary because Fleury would have been the player counted towards their draft.